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  1. Miss Cavendish
    November 30, 2009

    You know, I've never found RL's clothing to fit well. Even when I see his adverts, I cringe thinking of how the silky cream trousers will fit poorly . . .

  2. Belle de Ville
    November 30, 2009

    I don't know about anyone else but when I was horsing around and playing polo, I didn't wear Ralph Lauren clothes. I always felt that the brand was too wanna be. Now, on occasion when I need something very subdued to wear, in order to put the focus on the jewelry that I'm wearing, I will wear Ralph Lauren purple or black label.
    But I agree with Miss Cavendish that his clothes do not fit well. Event the outfit that I wore to the opera last week, which I paid big money for at Neimans, fit poorly and did not flatter in the least.

  3. Jill
    November 30, 2009

    I'm not sure how high WASP's feel and I'm writing this comment before I even read the full post. Poseur is the first word that has always come to my mind.

  4. DocP
    November 30, 2009

    Ralph. . . It is a love/hate relationship, isn't it? I'm plus size, which limits my selection of quality, traditional clothing. Ralph's plus pieces fit well, but I find I must choose carefully. Lately, the offerings have been too casual for work in the plus line. My other options are Talbots and Pendleton.

  5. Queen of Cashmere
    November 30, 2009

    Ralph Lipshitz (his real name) is peddling the dream to all those who aren't WASPs but wanna be.

  6. LPC
    November 30, 2009

    More power to Ralph. I honestly have no issue with people who wanna be. There are many things I wanna be. WASPs have been a thing-presenting culture. People want to have those things. OK. But I really hate the vacuous faces on women who are supposed to be me. Or my mother. Or aunt.

  7. Jan
    November 30, 2009

    Being exactly the opposite of tall and slender, the thought that I could ever wear anything produced by RL is laughable (he simply does not design for the short and round) – although I like that gold sweater a great deal, I know I could never pull it off (I have boobs, for one thing).

    I'm curious, though, as to why one would pay a large sum of money for something from Neiman's that fit poorly and was unflattering. Even those of us that are very short and very round can find clothes that fit reasonably well.

  8. DocP
    November 30, 2009

    I have that sweater. I'm sure I'll wear it to a couple of parties this season. There is much less navy than in the past – seems to be mostly black this year. I'm hoping for navy in the spring.

  9. DocP
    November 30, 2009

    LPC – not to mention the photoshopped model controversy.

  10. Deja Pseu
    November 30, 2009

    Having also grown up with horses, I can't bring myself to wear a head-to-toe equestrian look. Ralph has indeed found the marketing sweet spot – making people believe in the fairy tale and even more important, making them believe they can purchase a piece of it. The Lauren line does have a nicely cut hacking jacket from time to time…which I'll wear with anything other than jodphurs.

  11. Buckeroomama
    November 30, 2009

    I have no issue with a small discreet logo, but a big crest, a humongous logo plastered down the left side of the sternum? Um, no thanks.

    Coincidentally, I was at the Ralph Lauren shop last Saturday to drop something off for a friend whose mom manages the store. I have to tell you, it was packed –a mix of both locals and tourists.

  12. Maureen@IslandRoar
    November 30, 2009

    Yeah, I've always found those ads pretentious. Like if you buy these clothes you too can be rich and beautiful. Although that gold sweater is really nice.
    Another interesting post on a topic I'd not thought about …

  13. hostess of the humble bungalow
    November 30, 2009

    I have a few Ralph garments and they are quite plain, good basics. I did succumb to a white RL Polo, white with the navy polo pony on the front when holidaying in Palm Springs with my husband and children back in the 80's… El Paseo shop which served bubbly in a flute to the gents as they were led to a comfortable chair LOL!
    I also bought argyle cashmere socks for my neighbor who was taking in our mail and watering the houseplants.
    Your comment about how he cheapened what the High Wasp wore is more than likely true as I felt a teeny bit like I might have been a Wasp myself, wearing that polo, money well spent!

  14. Reggie
    November 30, 2009

    You nailed it

  15. Anonymous
    December 1, 2009

    Hmmm. Bought some Ralph Lauren flannel pajamas for the man in my life a couple of years ago. Buttons fell off in no time and the flannel pilled horribly. They are a wreck.

    Interesting post.

  16. Anonymous
    December 1, 2009

    Must disagree with various comments regarding fit.
    What keeps me coming back to the black and purple label is fit/cut.
    Fit, baby, is what it's about. Not….NOT, NOTTTT the logo and glitz.
    In fact, the stuff that doesn't try hard, works.
    For basics – trim wool shetlands (I ONLY buy the colors with the stitched logo the same color as the sweater as NOT to show). Besides, a string of pearls or a small silk knotted scarf tucked in the neck takes the eye away from the already discreet tone on tone logo of my shetlands.
    The black and purple label trousers and moleskin/velvet jeans fit like a dream AND are long enough.
    No where would I allow a label/logo show (PLAIN pockets!!) and the quality is excellent. High priced, yep. But never have altered and I've had the clothing for years. YEARS.
    His polo label and green label stuff is terrible. As are the oversized logos, gilt crested stuff and overtly, over stylized pieces.

  17. Aubergine
    December 1, 2009

    Interesting post.

    I never have been a fan of logos, (if I've paid for it, they're not using me as a free advertisement), but being a fan of polos, good shirts and v-neck cable knit jumpers makes avoiding them somewhat difficult.

    My family have always gone for teeny crocodiles instead of teeny men on horses but that still seems too logo-y for me.

    In my experience, cream trousers tend to not mix well with grass or children, even if they do have gorgeous hair.

  18. Lisa
    December 1, 2009

    Great post!

  19. class-factotum
    December 1, 2009

    My uncle actually did play polo. Around the world. He is an immigrant from what used to be Prussia before the Russians came over the hill in tanks. His dad was in WWII. On the Other Side.

    My uncle came to this country in debt. Joined the US Army. Went to college on the GI Bill. Has worked with horses his entire life. Was a fireman, a cowboy and a rancher. Now retired as the fire chief of the Broadmoor Fire Dept, he owns and runs a commercial stables. Has probably never worn a logo'd shirt in his life. Wore Wranglers to his own wedding. Drives an old pickup. Not your stereotypical polo player, but he has played in Argentina, China, and South Africa. Hmm. Does he win any snob points?

  20. Patsy
    December 2, 2009

    ah, Ralph's ubiquitous pony! like: my adorable red corderoy black label skirt, my husband's very heavy weight oxfords and the gorgeous custom home furnishings. dislike: the giant logo. looks like it's on steroids, creepy.

    I suspect the true polo players are much like competitive sailors – wouldn't be caught dead with an RL logo'ed shirt, unless it was part of the uniform, then, since it's free, who cares?

  21. Tickled Pink And Green
    December 2, 2009

    LOL! I love that last part! I admit I'm more about the home decor than the clothes but perhaps it is more because Ralph looks better on the thinner ladies…

    ;-)

  22. Happy Gilmore
    January 25, 2011

    I played polo when I was younger and didn’t mind wearing a shirt with a discrete Polo logo, on occasion. That is, until Ralph Lauren had the audacity to file suit against the US Polo Association for showing a mounted polo player on their literature. I haven’t purchsed anything Ralph Lauren since….

  23. Lisa
    January 29, 2011

    Now THAT’S delusional…

  24. Joy
    February 12, 2011

    Though I am not anywhere near a “high WASP” I do strongly share your sentiments regarding Ralph Lauren.

  25. Kysyona
    December 17, 2012

    I have to say, I have never owned a RL piece of clothing simply because I am quite short and have a very distinct hourglass shape, which doesn’t do justice to the RL design and vice versa. But I have to mention, that I have not been able to find a better perfume for outdoor activities than Ralph Lauren’s Polo Sport.It all comes down to one’s skin chemistry since it’s part of the final cocktail, but even when I sniff it from the bottle cap it makes me think of exactly what the clothing line promotes: youth, energy, wind blasting into a warmed up by exercise pink face ( at least mine is always pink on those ocasions ). This is perhaps the only RL product that prompts me to say: here he simply nailed it.

    12/17/12
    6:12 am
    Lisa said...

    He’s such a competent person, I am not surprised.

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